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Post by Andrew Rowland on Jun 24, 2017 0:58:26 GMT -5
what exactly is your problem there John?
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Post by munter on Jun 24, 2017 4:40:30 GMT -5
That lump of motor sticking out into the cockpit compartment is the problem...I am thinking shorter motor.
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Post by Andrew Rowland on Jun 24, 2017 4:51:43 GMT -5
I see, well that is normal for all these cars. You have to find ways to adapt the driver.
Check past build threads to see how people do it.
IM do a flattered body which can be added to full legs.....
Andi
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Post by slo on Jun 24, 2017 10:14:24 GMT -5
Short of using a FF030 (Solarbotics) or using a flat tray, or could use the Mashima motor Chris uses, I find this difficult to overcome. I tend to use a stepped tray. At least I can fit a full steering wheel, dash and torso from the arms/shoulders up this way, though, there a many many great builds that have used the flat tray in the cockpit area that look fantastic. I Dont like to drop the tray enough to include the legs as they tend to mess with body float, rubbing on the motor wires. Not so much because of the legs but because of the tray, in this case, the tray is needed so the chassis cant be seen from above because of the proxy ruling. I have been able to use a low lying body but it is very thin around the mid torso where it crosses the motor and the car body is sitting up high, something I dont like to do. I guess that question of built to race or built to show can be a thin line to tread when deciding which way to lean as we all try to get a little of both in the build. What this build for John?   |
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Post by Chris Wright on Jun 24, 2017 10:28:04 GMT -5
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Post by munter on Jun 24, 2017 13:48:50 GMT -5
Thanks chaps.
I have some 030 motors in my motorbox so that was my first thought. I also have a few driver options to carve up.
Hello Stu...I have a Honda RA271 build that is dragging on and on. The pictures show a chassis and painted body which is about all I have done in eighteen months
Chris...thanks for the link to those motors. I will investigate further.
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Post by Peter Seager-Thomas on Jun 24, 2017 16:40:10 GMT -5
This kind of relates to an earlier post on an earlier thread. The FF030 motors are racing wise pretty pathetic is power is of the essence. The proposed pioneer Hurricane was something I looked forward to of a similar size, but I gave up asking Jules about the avail availability of them. Space vs power is the name of the game these days.
Didn't Mark and a few others get a prototype Hurricane?
Peter.
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Post by Chris Wright on Jun 24, 2017 16:57:32 GMT -5
Yup I had a Hurricane. It's bigest problem was magnetration.
It's internal magnets were rediculously strong, horrible little thing.
If you put it on a scalex track, you could turn the track upside down and the car would not fall off.
Pity really.
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Post by munter on Jun 24, 2017 18:19:35 GMT -5
I have spent $US5.00 for some of the motors shown in the link...thanks Chris.
I do have a solarbotics motor in a Maserati sports car and it tools along quite well. It is geared low and in a light car(resin body/plastic chassis) there is enough oomph to enjoy.
I think the Solarbotics 030 was legal in a Tasman series one year, might even still be.
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Post by slo on Jun 24, 2017 19:33:41 GMT -5
I love the solarsbotics and think it is a perfect choice for the bantam weight cars of the 1.5 GP class and 64',65 Tasman class, all things being equal. However, it fell out of favor because of its unreliability and lack of brakes and there was a large variation in RPM from one motor to the next. It was a steep learning curve to get used to its different characteristics when racing along side the 050 motored cars which had much better braking so it wasnt really suited to proxy format. Still, they are cheap enough to grab a few, and the slower RPM motors could be well suited to the cars spending life on the shelf  Solarbotics was legal for VRAA a few years ago and was legal for the Tasman up until this years event and is no longer legal either. Chris's suggested motor above looks interesting and would be keen to learn how high a gearing it can handle? The Solarbotics is happily geared at 3:1. A certain solarbotic powered Tasman entry from a few years ago accidentally geared at 2.6:1 went like a 'rat up a drain pipe' while the motor was fresh but the car required 2 motor transplants over the 7 races! So The above motor might be a good alternative. Would be keen to hear follow up on this one... |
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Post by David Mitcham on Jun 25, 2017 3:35:37 GMT -5
Hi John Not a lot I can add on this. With any FF050 type motor in a 1.5L car its going involve serious surgery on the driver. As a piece of fairly useless information I bought five small (a bit less than 030 size) motors from Ranch Design a few years ago.    I put one a Beardog chassis in a Lotus 25 and it works very well - the performance is very good (as good as an FF050) and it enables most of a driver figure to fit. Of course Ranch Design is no longer in business - much missed - but I think its the same motor as this - www.radioshack.com/products/radioshack-9vdc-micro-super-high-speed-motor . Chris tells me Radio Shack went out of business some years ago but it appears their stuff is still available as long as you live in the USA as they don't seem to deliver internationally. I did say what I could add was limited and fairly useless!! Best Regards David |
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