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Post by Peter Seager-Thomas on Jun 29, 2012 14:38:14 GMT -5
Whilst not a great traveller, I benefit from having both Goodwood and Brooklands within modest striking distance, Goodwood being but 15-20 miles away. I took about 250 pictures, most of course being of earlier exhibits. The picture below is of a 1911 Fiat S84. The engine is about 48" from top to bottom...  I'll add to this thread in bits due to Photobucket problems.. Peter. |
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Post by Peter Seager-Thomas on Jun 29, 2012 14:59:12 GMT -5
Next up is (for me) one of the stars of the show, a W125 Mercedes GP car. In my view nothing too showy, just well presented.  Whilst not an 'F1' enthusiast as such, I do have a liking for the earlier stuff, like this.  I don't have a model of this car, so the pictures I took are 'just in case'. I much prefer the car in this form, some consider it ugly, I think it is great. A car I don't know much about, the Lotus 12. Fantastic.  The owner of this car was incredibly helpful to all who showed interest. I think it had a two speed transmission  I'm sure this is a Weslake? unfortunately my visit was when many cars were still arriving, and more were covered and un-attended, also, not quite my period, but the cars of this period are the last 'non-wing' cars. After this , my interest wanes. More pictures as I edit them. Peter.  |
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Post by Mark Huber on Jun 30, 2012 8:51:18 GMT -5
Peter,
Yes, that is an Eagle Weslake.
These are lovely photos. Thank you for including a picture of the BRM V16.
I'm wondering if any of our other forum members were over there viewing the cars?
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Post by Peter Seager-Thomas on Jun 30, 2012 16:42:29 GMT -5
A Couple more pictures. A car again, which I know little about, the 804 Porsche. anyone who wants wheels for such a model could try the Fly 906 wheels, excellent.   Vintage stuff next, Indy, open wheeler, what is it... Peter. |
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Post by Mark Huber on Jun 30, 2012 16:55:21 GMT -5
Peter, is it this car?
From: Wikipedia:
The 1962 Harvey Aluminium Special Indianapolis 500 car.
In 1962 Mickey Thompson entered three John Crosthwaite designed cars in the Indianapolis 500 Unusually they used a stock V8 Buick engine and it was in the rear unlike the front engined, race tuned, Offenhauser powered cars used by most competitors. It was the first stock engine to be raced at Indy since 1946 and was the beginning of the rear engine transformation at the Indianapolis 500. ** Thompson's crew led by Fritz Voigt were young, smart and hard working. Working 12-14 hour days, the car was designed and built in 120 days. For the race, the engine (enlarged to 4.2 litre capacity, the maximum allowed by the regulations for stock block engines) had to be detuned because they were concerned it would not last the distance. Despite being more than 70 bhp down on the other cars Dan Gurney qualified eighth and was in ninth place until a leaking oil seal seized the gearbox and ended his race on lap 94. He was placed 20th out of 33. The team won the Mechanical Achievement Award for original design, construction and accomplishment
**I think the author (s) forgot--or weren't aware of Jack Brabham's Cooper entry in 1961.
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Post by Peter Seager-Thomas on Jun 30, 2012 17:25:02 GMT -5
Mark, yes, this is the car. A quick look at other pictures showed the 'Harvey Aluminium Special' script.
I'll add the other pictures in due course.
Peter.
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Post by Peter Seager-Thomas on Jul 2, 2012 14:59:53 GMT -5
Sunbeam Indianapolis.   In 1914 this 4.9 litre car came 4th. After its' racing career, a toured body was fitted, as was commomn with many old race cars. The correct race body was re-created many years ago. Apart from the body, it is believed to be almost 100% original. Peter. |
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Post by Peter Seager-Thomas on Jul 2, 2012 15:34:12 GMT -5
Something a little more modern. Not my cup of tea, but I remember being amazed when they first appeared.  The March 761 was to the best of my knowledge not a success, but I think it is great that someone tried it.  This is the bit which of course made it famous. I think Steve Ward now does/is doing the twin axle drive chassis.  The most successful engine of all time?  I always seem to take pictures of suspension, perhaps because when I want such pictures, they cannot be found. Peter. |
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Post by Peter Seager-Thomas on Jul 8, 2012 17:26:06 GMT -5
More 1911 Fiat.  Not long, not wide, but pretty tall.  This was among the 'pioneer' cars, and far removed from the GP Mercedes of just three years later.  48 inches from base of sump to top of rocker cover   I take wheel pictures everywhere I go.... The chain drive is an added bonus. This wheel was popular in the 20's for early wired tyres rather than the then more usual beaded edge type. There is no well, but instead a huge outside 'circlip', fitted when the tyre is deflated, and thenheld in position by the pressure. Late cars to use this arrangement are the SSKL Mercedes and the T59 Bugatti. Peter. |
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Post by Andrew Rowland on Jul 12, 2012 3:13:48 GMT -5
All lovely photos Peter, thanks for your time.
Of course I love ALL these cars but equally am currently at least pursuing my '70's passion...
So just to explain that March is actually the 2-4-0. The numbers break with traditional March year/formula tradition to use the railway locomotive numbering system!
Actually the car was little else than a publicity stunt dreamt up by Max Moseley although later it was indeed made to run in order to 'complete' the 'blag'....
It never of course ran in any GP.
On taking photos for builds: almost all photos of GP cars are from the front for obvious speed reasons. Please always take rear photos. This is especially true and important for those wing cars you are not so interested in as that zone is very much in shadow so doesn't make for 'publishable' material....
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Post by Russell Sheldon on Jul 12, 2012 11:04:15 GMT -5
Jody and Ian Scheckter will probably go down in history as the only brothers to have ever driven 6-wheel F1 cars... Jody the Tyrrell P34 and Ian the March 2-4-0. Ian Scheckter drove the 240/771 in practice at the 1977 Brazilian GP, the only time it appeared in six-wheel trim at a GP meeting. After further testing, both Ian Scheckter and team-mate Alex-Dias Riberio felt that there was nothing to be gained from the twin rear wheels and the car was converted to four wheels, being raced at the end of the season as the 771. At the end of the year March pulled out of Grand Prix racing and the car was sold to British Hill Climb specialist Roy Lane, who asked for the car to be re-built in its original 6-wheel form. Lane promptly won the opening two rounds of the British Hill Climb Championship in the 2-4-0 but nevertheless, like Scheckter, Lane didn't think the six wheels gave him any real advantage; it was soon put back on four and went on to win the British Hill Climb Championship.  Roy Lane, March 2-4-0Kind regards, Russell |
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Post by Peter Seager-Thomas on Jul 13, 2012 13:37:25 GMT -5
BRM this time, V16 of course. A disasterous project, but the concept was brilliant. Now if they'd gone for 2 stage mechanical supercharging and wishbone/transverse leaf suspension....  Like so many cars at Goodwood, this was a later arrival, but at least it remained uncovered. Access to take pictures from the rear was limited.  You cannot have too many pictures of a car you wish to model, especially original pictures.  The trouble is taking them all! If anyone needs higher resolution pictures, send a PM and we'll sort something out.  Detail pictures are always useful. I took more on the P3 Alfa than anything else.  One of the earlier disc braked cars of course.  Wow, a hassle free post, including the 'bucket stuff. I'm now using Firefox which, fingers crossed, makes things work. Peter. |
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