What car to make for my first try?

[steveneill]

Chris told me it would be better to post this here rather than face book where I posted it earlier today.

So if a make up a formula 1car body at our studio what would you like to see that hasn't been done yet? Up to the mid 60s that is. Love the vintage machines. Oh and resin or vacuum formed?

i later went on to say that since most of the vintage machines are so round that vacuum forming might be a problem because of the negative draft. But silicone molds are not a problem I have made them many times over the years. 

Thanks guys,
steve

[David Lawson]

Make a car that you feel passionate about.

David

[Mark Huber]

David's advice is excellent. I have rescinded my recommendation. You shouldn't make a car that I feel passionate about. Make the car YOU want to make.

[Chris Wright]

Hi Steve,

David Lawson and Mark are correct. I find models turn out as crap unless you had the passion to drive you. Actually many models don't get finished because of a lost of interest. But you know that, you're a professional model maker, but this is different, you will be building this for yourself, and your ego.

So you've said you like mid 60's Formula One cars, and your criteria at the moment is "What do people want, and what hasn't been produced"

I believe you're thinking like a businessman, aren't you going to do this for self satisfaction?

What are your favorite F-1 cars of the 60's? Most have been done, most have been done badly, which one are you going to do better than any one else, which one is going to actually look like it's full size counterpart?

Please do it in resin, there are no racing classes for vacuum moulded true scale F-1 cars any more.

Reference? Everybody on the forum will be more than happy to provide that.

So what car are you going to produce? Do it for yourself.

[steveneill]

Thank you gentlemen. I clearly understand your meaning of defining a model I am passionate about. After all I'm an artist first. That huge Enterprise I built was out of passion because I always wanted a large model of the original ship.
But when it comes to cars it all sort of stopped when my dad died in a car accident at age 14. That was about 65. Then I came to Hollywood for a long career in movies. So hear I am at 62 full of piss and vinegar still but I need inspiration. I need to look at a lot of cars and get reacquainted.
That's why I asked for suggestions. As soon as I saw the Coopers my memory kicked in to gear. Wow! I loved those machines.
So although it may be tiring to a bunch of seasoned slots like yourselves remember for all the modeling work I have done I a newbie here.
Thanks for your patience.
Steve

[Chris Wright]

The T-66, T-73 (in the form illustrated above) and T-77 have not been modeled in 1/32 scale.

[Ember]

I want someone to do a super sexy Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale... But I can see Mark tutting at me. So... Follow your heart.


Picture added by Chris

[steveneill]

Thanks so much guys and Chris. And Ember that Alfa is a hottie. I wouldn't mine taking a crack at that next.
I also like Dan's Eagle too. I have no idea if this has been modeled.

www.conceptcarz.com/events/eventVehicle.aspx?carID=13631&eventID=669&catID=2555

[Chris Wright]

Hi Steve,

The Eagle has been modeled three times, and two are still available in the marketplace. In my opinion they've been modeled badly, and are way off capturing the essence of the car, below are the available Eagles.


Scalextric version, still available.


Classic Bodies, still available.


Airfix Eagle, discontinued, but still available on EBAY

I have modeled two Eagles, the first is Dan Gurney's ride at the Riverside GP in the 60, this is a Beardog kit:


And this car, An Eagle Climax that's a one off built for this years GPdG2014:


Non of them hit the mark, not even my creations, if you can have a go, Dan Gurney himself may be able to help, he lives in the Santa Anna area, and I understand he's very approachable.

Chris

[steveneill]

Chris thanks so much maybe I should have a go. Santa Anna isn't far either.
Steve

[steveneill]

The more research and think about all this the more I am starting to realize thatbinshouldnwalk first, then run. This is new territory for this seasoned modeler. A simple design without a lot of engine exposed and intricate details. Certainly the Eagle has all that.
I want to be able to make the masters for some molds and get me feet wet with a more simple design.
Back to doing more research.

Steve

[steveneill]

OK T 73 it is. Seems there's lots of info on the car and it's not too complicated. I even found plans and cross sections.
I also found this rather intriguing video.




Being a gamer I'd love to have this game. I have the foot paddles and stirring wheel for the game. Mostly I do flight sims from WW2 I wasn't aware they even had driving games like this. Thought it was all NASCAR.

If anyone has info on this model of Cooper it would be greatly appreciated.

All the best,
Steve

[Chris Wright]

Steve I'll post some reference pictures on the Cooper T-73 for you tomorrow.

[steveneill]

Thanks Chris.
Steve

[f143]

That was the car I choose to model first!
Nigel