Post by David Mitcham on Sept 4, 2018 15:22:03 GMT -5
I'm liking the sound of this particularly as, other than the Tasman series, there are no other single seater proxies in prospect. The idea of two classes is good and it seems to me there are quite few body shells around (eg GTM, Shadowfax, Munter). I think 5mm tyre width maybe a bit difficult to comply with; 6mm rears would be better. Personally I'd prefer a '50s or '66 - '70 series as that's where my main interest lies but I'd certainly enter a '30s/40s series as proposed in outline - I think I could get some UK friends interested including possible venues.
I am also a big fan of the 50's - the 60's, well not so much. There was a 50's class in the VRAA a while back.. So far as I know, Early Birds, a great event but not a proxy race, is the only venue for 30's racing cars
Post by Andrew Rowland on Sept 5, 2018 11:56:56 GMT -5
I like where this is going.
I think the largest area that needs clear thought is motors. I would suggest both classes are limited to 050 / 030 but the GP class would be open choice of revs whilst the voiturettes could have a prescribed output.
I don't think it makes much sense to pit big powerful motors against smaller ones just by saying that the tyre width will limit the power. I have raced at EB's and other meetings and people do put large motors in.... although they don't necessarily win! I have a flat six in an Auto Union from just such a meeting.
The other issue is track voltage. I would advocate that if we are using 'proper' motors we should be running at 12v not the 10v that the VRAA has been running at......
For a number of years I've sat on a couple of Dave Jones shells of GP cars from the period -- Auto Union C and Mercedes W154 -- so a proxy for 30's cars might give me the kick in the pants needed to build them. Apart from the various silver arrows and the odd out-classed Alfa heroically driven by Nuvolari, are there any other 30's GP cars available that might add some variety to the grid of a potential proxy? As for the Voiturettes, besides the two GT shells are there any others to choose from?
Without wishing to derail the pre-war proxy discussion at all, lately I've been daydreaming about another 1950's GP Proxy along the lines of the VRAA2016 GP2.5 Class. I wonder if there would be enough interest in something like that?
Post by maxrossmassler on Sept 5, 2018 19:49:20 GMT -5
I am very happy to read this thread! I still build open wheelers by preference, and I have a few GTM kits I am building that would be good for these classes. I also had the idea that the Tyco box-type motor from HO scale cars could be a nice motor for a group like this. I built one up in an overweight brass chassis and it went plenty fast. Anybody else tried that? But regardless of that, I would love to send a car or two made to whatever rules get narrowed down to. I have Talbot Lago, Merc W154, and some 2.5L F1s, and I even have some appropriate wheels and tires. Hope all is well with all of you! -Max
Hello Max, great to read of your interest in this possible event.
So far we have: member interest a preferred era of the thirties? two classes possibly motor preference for ff050 of a spec power level and a larger output motor for the larger class Dimensions and specs have been suggested and do not look to far off agreement.
urethane tires only?...what say ye?
My next question is venue/s and hosts. It would be best to keep this event on one continent or one island so are there any suggestions there. In my area I could offer four wood tracks but....