Post by Andrew Rowland on Jun 19, 2012 14:30:02 GMT -5
The problem with the PP hubs is the big internal 'hub' with the grub screw which makes any concept of scale obsolete. Especially on the front. Chris, I hate to do this to you but mainly I use...... Ostorero Lotus 79 hubs and tyres too. Available from Ostorero direct (they can understand English but replies can be looong. Or in the US from electric dreams. Otherwise Slot.it F1 hubs and tyres will work better and be lighter but are officially too narrow at the rear for 'scale' builds. The lack of decent wheel tyre combos in this era is something i'll be tackling with my new 'production' of the Tecno. On balance i'd say go for the PP option then they'll be Ortmann compatible and those who want can find other specific options.... What do other people want?
What about using 1/24th scale foam tire hubs they come in many different small diameters and some of them have the hubless design. You could get the width you need for the rear without the hub in the way for the fronts. Hmm, I may just happen to have a few magnesium sets that take a 3/32nd axle that would work for my GPdeG car. All I would have to do is cut out some center ribs on my lathe to the size that would fit my tires. Thanks guys!
Or, you could draw up a better wheel design that fits your specs and have Steve at Ranch Design make them for you. He does custom work at a reasonable price
Post by Chris Wright on Jun 19, 2012 15:46:21 GMT -5
OK I think the only commercially available wheel that comes close are the PP wheels, thanks Andi, could you tell me what size insert these wheels accept?
Hi Ken, thanks for the help. I'm trying to help out Martin Field, he's in the last production stages of his Hesketh, and needs to know the most readily acceptable diameter to make the masters for the wheel inserts. I know it's a compromise but it looks as though the Penelope Pitlane wheels are the closest that are readily available.
I'm sure that advanced modelers will be able to turn down Mr Fields inserts if they manage to find the correct 13" size wheels in the future. It's strange that nobody has made wheels yet for these cars.
Mark Huber-Ranch Design -might give us a hand with this one. He will do cusgton wheels I believe if we get him the sizes. I have sent him a note but have not heard as yet. It is just a thought and we would have exactly what we want. Howard
Post by Chris Wright on Jun 20, 2012 7:48:39 GMT -5
Thankyou, Andi, Russell, Mark, Howard and David.
It appears that the best size for the inserts is a standard .365" or 9.2 mm. These will fit PP, RS, BWA, and Ranch Design. (when made). Thank you very much gentlemen problem solved, the final parts of the Hesketh can now be produced.
Thanks for doing this for me Chris, I hadn't thought of it!
I should add that I don't need to ask RD to make wheels as I can just give my local machine shop dimensions and they will turn out CNC made wheels as they did for FPF, Penelope Pitlane and RS. GP Miniatures also get their wheels made there!
As I am not a racer I have no idea who makes what beyond PP. then there's the problem of tyres A much bigger one than wheels it seems.
So, I will accept Chris's conclusions based on your contributions and make the inserts to the given diameter. But they will have to come with the warning...if they don't fit, don't blame me!
Gordon Bennet, I always provide an insert pattern with my models. Normally it's fine to specify PP wheels. NOBODY is going to race this car. It is just too fragile. I doubt any of these will be raced seriously, so I just need to keep my end of the bargain, as usual and make an insert. Now, do I give it a rim to hold all the spoke ends together? Do I give it a rim to make wheels like Slotits and NSR look remotely realistic? Because they look crap ordinarily! Might be featherweight for racers, but I wouldn't want them disgracing my model! It seems there will be many different clearances between a .365 " insert and all the different wheels you mention. Not so bad with open ended spokes, but it would look horrible with a rim on the outside of those spokes.
I have a diameter, but I am not convinced they will look right.
Last Edit: Jun 20, 2012 13:19:54 GMT -5 by Mark Huber