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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2012 13:31:34 GMT -5
Sorry, I had to write that with grandchildren on my knee shouting in my earole! What I'm trying to say is fine, I'll make the inserts .365" diameter, but the inside diameters of the wheels mentioned are all slightly different and they all have different internal depths, some with a hub of about 3mm-ish diameter. They also affect the depth.
Open ended spokes will reduce any effect the different diameters cause, but only if they can sit at the very "back" of the internal diameter, which they can't where there is a hub inside. So I put a rim round them with a conical face to attempt to make the racer wheels like like a wheel, but there could be a gap on this wheel or that. That would look horrific!
Does that explain it any better?
I want to give a good product to the customer, but this all makes it very difficult.
Martin
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Post by Chris Wright on Jun 20, 2012 13:37:53 GMT -5
Martin I wouldn't worry too much about the NSR's and Slot-it wheels, if a purist racer want's to use those he'll lose points in concours anyway. Do them like you did Mels Honda wheels just the spokes to a .365 dia, they'll look fine.
Don't do yourself a disservice, the Hesketh will be raced, fragility can be overcome easily with a little class-cloth and superglue.
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Post by towboater on Jun 25, 2012 15:27:50 GMT -5
The wheels for the McLaren M23 seem to be a fine sizing for me, but I do not want to run plastic. With that in mind I am sending a set of the wheels (both front and rears) to Steve at Ranch Design for him to use for sizing of turned alum. wheels. If there are going to be .365 inserts available I will make sure he is aware of this also. Luf has agreed (and he is about as local as I can get) to make front tires from the set of Scalex fronts that I have already sent him and he already has the molds for the rears.. This is not my first, nor will it be my last 70's F1 so the wheels and tires will be of greater use down the road. I know for some this will not be a choise they will pursue but for those interested they can now have these as an option.
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Post by Russell Sheldon on Jun 26, 2012 10:46:35 GMT -5
The main issue is that if you want to enter an event, the regulations normally specify the maximum and minimum wheel and tyre dimensions permitted.
The events I enter are run to Classic Slot Car Racing Association's (www.cscra.co.uk) rules, which stipulate:-
1966-1970 Formula 1 and Indy Cars:- Front wheels and tyres: Minimum diameter 17mm, minimum width 6mm Rear wheels and tyres: Minimum diameter 19mm, maximum width 12mm
1971-1977 Formula 1 and Indy Cars:- Front wheels and tyres: Minimum diameter 17mm, minimum width 6mm (Tyrrell P34 6 wheeler: Minimum diameter 13mm) Rear wheels and tyres: Minimum diameter 19mm, maximum width 14mm
1978-1982 Formula 1 and Indy Cars – ‘Ground Effect’ cars:- Front wheels and tyres: Minimum diameter 17mm, minimum width 8mm Rear wheels and tyres: Minimum diameter 19mm, maximum width 14mm
1983-1988 Formula 1 and Indy Cars – ‘Turbo’ F1 cars:- Front wheels and tyres: Minimum diameter 18mm, minimum width 8mm Rear wheels and tyres: Minimum diameter 19mm, maximum width 14mm
Kind regards,
Russell
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Post by towboater on Jun 26, 2012 17:34:40 GMT -5
I understand that for some who race in given events that the wheels I am having made will not be of any use and as has been pointed out to me the tires will not be light enough for some. I am a home racer and not one who competes on any real organized level. The idea of my post was to show that wheels can be obtained without extensive effort from either examples or from drawings. Steve (Ranch Design) has been kind enough to make wheels for other specific events and rules and I am sure there are others out there who do the same. Let me state that I am in no way associated with Ranch Design, just using them as an example. If one would want a specific wheel to be made by his company the charge is small and the rewards large. As things are turning out it is just as good that the Hesketh is with inserts and not a complete kit. The chassis, wheels and motors would certainly be fine for some and not for others--this way we can each taylor the car to our needs. Good racing to all!!!
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