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Post by Aurora on Apr 9, 2013 3:45:45 GMT -5
A new project - 1963 Moskvich G4. Rough body shell. Not much documentation for this car, so I'll be guessing on just about everything
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Post by f143 on Apr 9, 2013 3:55:41 GMT -5
Certainly captures the look of the car Matt, good effort. Any details of how you did it? Regards Nigel
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Post by Aurora on Apr 9, 2013 4:46:01 GMT -5
I started with a Scalextric Porsche F1 body shell. All components and details (cowls, engine, gearbox, exhaust, driver, etc.) were cut off. The plastic hull that remains is being built up with styrene and various other plastics.
This shell is still very rough, and requires a lot more work. I sprayed primer on it so I could visualize the contours and see details more easily. Most of the primer will be removed over the next few weeks as the body is attacked with a variety of dangerous looking tools.
I've used this body shell construction method a few times now, and I've been pleased with the results. However, it is labor intensive and time consuming. I rebuild entire sections - over and over and over - until it looks somewhat representative of the actual car.
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Post by David Lawson on Apr 9, 2013 10:00:14 GMT -5
I don't know the original car very well but judging by that drawing in your picture you have captured the lines and proportions well. It will be very interesting seeing this slot car take shape.
David
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Post by Mark Huber on Apr 9, 2013 17:21:32 GMT -5
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Post by Aurora on Apr 10, 2013 1:11:34 GMT -5
Mark, I did see that - thank you. That data set provides some useful dimensions. The wheelbase will be relatively long for such a short car, over 73mm.
What I haven't found are photos of the suspension and interior, and I'm not optimistic.
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Post by alfetta on Apr 10, 2013 8:03:01 GMT -5
Try the Russian Embassy they may be able to help with finding information on the Moskvich.
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Post by Mark Huber on Apr 10, 2013 9:58:03 GMT -5
"Maximum speed: 180 km/h (G4M - 190 km/h)" Wow, the prototype was a real barn burner wasn't it?
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Post by Aurora on Apr 10, 2013 14:27:40 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess 76 hp doesn't get you much. Maybe it was a good thing that it didn't have a lot of power. I have seen a photo of a G4 racing on what looks to be snow! Any more than 76 hp would probably just mean that you would spin out faster.
The Russian Embassy is close to my house - I wonder how they would react to an inquiry about a Soviet F1 car. Diplomats don't really have a sense of humor, do they.
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Post by alfetta on Apr 10, 2013 16:41:18 GMT -5
The Officials are the humourless members o that fraternity. They just might like to demonstrate their knowledge. Worth trying.What have you got to lose?
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Post by Mark Huber on Apr 10, 2013 19:23:54 GMT -5
The official reply:
Существует нет Москвич материал здесь. Мы покупаем Buggatis и Феррари теперь, когда мы коррумпированные капиталисты.
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Post by alfetta on Apr 11, 2013 10:31:09 GMT -5
Oh very good.
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Post by Aurora on Apr 11, 2013 14:22:58 GMT -5
Ok, I was awake all night learning Russian and here is what I came up with: There is no Moskvich stuff here. We buy Bugattis and Ferraris now that we have crony capitalists. ;D Well, here is some Moskvich stuff. The body shell after more cutting, grinding, filling, and shaping. This will probably be the final shape, as I don't think my lungs can absorb any more toxic dust. A full driver figure-sans internal organs-may fit in the cockpit, even though this car will use a lengthy FF-050 motor. His NATO nickname will be "Spineless Joe", although I'm sure the driver of any Moskvich had to be anything but spineless. I like the characteristic agricultural simplicity and ruggedness of the Soviet era G4 - it reminds me of a MIG-17 (of course without the beautiful lines, wings, guns, turbojet, etc.) So in keeping with NATO's convention for names for Soviet aircraft starting with "F", this G4 with its massive 76 hp is code-named "Flatulator".
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Post by f143 on Apr 11, 2013 19:17:00 GMT -5
That is looking very good Matt the back end even looks petty, but surely it's Igor Gudenuv who is the driver. Regards Nigel
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Post by Aurora on Aug 18, 2013 13:42:36 GMT -5
This is all I have to show for HOURS of work The piece on top is a motor bracket. The first challenge is to obtain precise, accurate bends. I never get it right! At fault is my ham-fisted technique. But I'm also thinking I may not be using the best tools for the job. Would a bending brake help? The second challenge is to drill the holes for the axle bushings. What a snafu that was. The holes weren't in the correct location, and they weren't even round! To correct them, I had to solder on more brass material, into which I had drilled round holes (or as close to round as I can make them). The flat piece below will be the front axle/guide holder. I'm expecting this to require multiple attempts to get right, as this part is more complex than the motor bracket. ;D These parts are enjoyable to make, but trying to get the tolerances to a few thousandths can be exasperating.
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