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Post by Mark Huber on Jan 6, 2014 18:28:57 GMT -5
Verrrry interesting Chris. But as you've disqualified me (and Mr. Lawson) from the quiz I will hold my fire. I was tempted to post another picture, but that would sort of give it away.
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Post by f143 on Jan 7, 2014 6:51:10 GMT -5
As I do not have any specific reference books on Lotus, I am taking a bit of a guess. Is it Lotus 25 R4 from the 1964 Dutch GP? The drive shafts are from the Lotus 33. Nigel
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Post by Chris Wright on Jan 7, 2014 10:54:19 GMT -5
As I do not have any specific reference books on Lotus, I am taking a bit of a guess. Is it Lotus 25 R4 from the 1964 Dutch GP? The drive shafts are from the Lotus 33. Nigel Sorry Nigel, very close, but not quite. It's also got the high mounted rear suspension, and 13" wheels, so guess again Chris
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Post by David Mitcham on Jan 7, 2014 12:05:06 GMT -5
Hi Chris
Is it the sticking plaster on Jimmy Clark's lip? I seem to remember he had been hit by something (a stone or an officious Dutch policemen?!) - this is a pure guess from a befuddled memory (and without Googling or looking at reference books) and if nothing else might cause some amusement for those who know what the right answer is!
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Post by David Mitcham on Jan 7, 2014 12:24:24 GMT -5
Or is that he's wearing a different helmet (no white peak) - maybe borrowed from Dan Gurney?
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Post by Chris Wright on Jan 7, 2014 14:32:29 GMT -5
Well here's a small hint, the 64 indy 500 was held on May 30th, and the Dutch GP is correct and it was held on May 24th, so yes it could be Gurney's helmet, but probably not, my guess is he got a new helmet from the USA, in black and this was the first time he adopted it, it's a nice shiney black Bell, perhaps he hadn't had it painted yet? David you are right, he has the same plaster under his nose as he had during his drive in the Lotus 34 on the 30th of that month, so he was probably going through qualifying trials at Indy at took time off for the Dutch GP. But what car is he driving
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Post by Brian on Jan 7, 2014 15:27:07 GMT -5
Jim Clark is driving a Lotus 25 with the Climax FWMV 1.5 V8 MkV engine, in the Dutch GP, 24th of May 1964. Where the lotus 25 made it's first appearance.
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Post by Chris Wright on Jan 7, 2014 15:38:18 GMT -5
It's not a Lotus 25! Check it out again.
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Post by Mark Huber on Jan 7, 2014 17:00:16 GMT -5
It's not a Lotus 25! Check it out again. Now you are just splitting hairs... Okay, that's all I'm going to say. (for the moment)
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Post by Brian on Jan 7, 2014 17:19:31 GMT -5
Lotus 25 Climax.................... or is just the Lotus Climax?
Oh I give up!
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Post by David Lawson on Jan 7, 2014 18:00:47 GMT -5
Mark - I don't think Chris is splitting hairs. David
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Post by Chris Wright on Jan 7, 2014 18:23:25 GMT -5
O.K. It's an Amalgam, called a Lotus 25B.
13" wheels, revised suspension, probably revised motor, well on it's way to becoming a 33.
This car is R-6 at the 1964 Dutch G.P.
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Post by Mark Huber on Jan 7, 2014 19:32:29 GMT -5
Ah..what to call R6.. a truly fine racing car with four championship wins to its credit in 1964-5. See page 66 of Doug Nye's "Theme Lotus" for additional commentary as to how various journalists referred to this car in 1964 and 1965 as it was modified from race to race. Really this sort of minutiae should be reserved for important debates--like the true shade of BRM green. Now how did R6 acquire what appears to be a rather large dent in the cowling (per the B&W photo at the Dutch Grand Prix? No, I do not know the answer, I'm really inquiring.
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Post by Chris Wright on Jan 8, 2014 17:43:47 GMT -5
OK I've finished my up-grade of the board for now, this is the 2014 up-grade, maybe next year we'll do a Ferrari theme. While I'm upgrading has anybody any sensible suggestions to topics? Only 1/32 open wheeled cars please.
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Post by Phil Kalbfell on Jan 9, 2014 19:57:27 GMT -5
Chris. Since the update the white text in the banner,does not resize or centre properly, In Safari it rolls over part of the word Forum to a second line and on the PC the text does not centre using Firefox. Have not checked on Chrome or IE as yet.
Phil
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