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Post by Brian on Oct 25, 2013 5:37:54 GMT -5
A very brief history you will already know, but please bear with me. Zandvoort Holland. Dutch GP, Round 5, Race No166 90 Laps, totalling 4.193km On a very wet weekend on the 23rd of June 1968 (The year of my birth, by the way), at Zandvoort in Holland the Dutch Grand Prix took place. Jackie started on the second row, having qualified in 5th position. With Chris Amon in his Ferrari 312 on Pole with Jochen Rindt in his Brabham-Repco BT26 in 2nd. As the race began the rain was lightly coming down on the drivers and their cars. Race Results 1st Jackie Stewart is his No8 Matra-Cosworth MS10 completing 90 laps in 2h46mins11.260s (Qualifying position 5) 2nd Jean-Pierre Beltoise in his No17 Matra MS11 (Qualifying position 16) 3rd Pedro Rodriquez in his No15 BRM P133 (Qualifying position 11) Graham Hill could only manage 9th, in Holland, due to a spin on lap 61. Hill spun again on lap 82 and this time retired. But still remained in the No1 position in the Drivers Championship. Jackie Stewart with half the 24 points of Hill moved up to 2nd position. Attachments:
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Post by Brian on Oct 25, 2013 5:49:54 GMT -5
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Post by Brian on Oct 25, 2013 6:09:40 GMT -5
I've placed an order for fuse wire for HT Leads/cables etc, (Cheers Dave for the top tip) and there's some boot lace ferrules on order (Top tip from this forum, cheers) for my Carb' trumpets. And this morning I cut out the resin grill and have experimented on my wire grill. I'm going to attempt to add engine framework bars on either side of the engine and suspension detail when I acquire some piano wire. I've also removed the resin loop off the rear as it was too long. I will be shortening and refitting it, with another above, as per the actual car. Thanks to all who have given me advice and help to-date and for those who will in the future. Greatly appreciated Brian Attachments:
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Post by David Lawson on Oct 25, 2013 6:40:22 GMT -5
Brian
Thanks for showing us your very first F1 build and it is great to see that you are already modifying and improving the detailing of the shell in your builds.
I look forward to seeing how it proceeds.
David
PS Don't be too hard on Graham Hill spinning a couple of times in the 1968 Dutch GP, the Firestone tyres were useless in the wet and Stewart's specially cut "wet" Dunlop's gave him a very real advantage.
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Post by Brian on Oct 25, 2013 7:05:03 GMT -5
PS Don't be too hard on Graham Hill spinning a couple of times in the 1968 Dutch GP, the Firestone tyres were useless in the wet and Stewart's specially cut "wet" Dunlop's gave him a very real advantage. Thanks for your very informative comments. I had noticed that Jackie's car had large grooves cut into his tyres, I may add this detail to my build. Was this a ground breaking development in "wet" tyres? Sir Graham Hill's achievements were and are amazing and I did not mean be too hard on him, I apologise. The fact that even after this race he was still 12 points clear of the pack is testament too his skill. Cheers. Brian
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Post by Mark Huber on Oct 25, 2013 7:57:30 GMT -5
Thanks for your very informative comments. I had noticed that Jackie's car had large grooves cut into his tyres, I may add this detail to my build.
Sir Graham Hill's achievements were and are amazing and I did not mean be too hard on him,
Brian
Did I miss something with respect to Hill's order of chivalry? Can titles be conferred posthumously?
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Post by Brian on Oct 25, 2013 8:48:36 GMT -5
Whoops my error, did so much research this morning, got Mr Stewart and Mr Hill mixed up on that one.
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Post by David Lawson on Oct 25, 2013 10:52:27 GMT -5
No need to apologise Brian I wasn't being serious but it was true that the Dunlops gave Stewart a significant advantage in wet races. This picture isn't too clear but it is the technicians cutting the central groove out of the tyres. They used a hot blade that was a bit like a chisel. David
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Post by Mark Huber on Oct 25, 2013 10:58:49 GMT -5
No need to apologise Brian I wasn't being serious but it was true that the Dunlops gave Stewart a significant advantage in wet races. This picture isn't too clear but it is the technicians cutting the central groove out of the tyres. They used a hot blade that was a bit like a chisel. David David, perhaps you can cut a groove in my Lotus' tires and then wet down Southend very liberally? The other club members wouldn't object would they? I think my Lotus will need all the help it can get! (Sorry Brian, I couldn't resist when I saw that cool picture David posted). But then again, my car is supposed to be on Firestone tires not Dunlops--No wonder it's sliding around! Brian, Are you going to hand paint Stewart's tartan band? If you're looking for a decal that fits, I actually have some templates now that will work on decal paper. My hand is just not steady enough for doing anything close to the Stewart Tartan.
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Post by Brian on Oct 25, 2013 11:30:07 GMT -5
I cannot explain, how getting into Scratch building has taken me. It's not just the process of producing and refining the cars, it's the history, the nostalgia. Basically everything about it, it lifts the soul. In the past month or so, I have never far away from my laptop (Recovering from a back operation) and every waking hour I spend researching a car or a driver and of course I have seen many beautiful scratch build creations on several forums. The cars from the era that this forum is dedicated too are things of beauty and to see a beautiful recreation is so inspiring. I am lucky to attend a slot club where Mr Wisdom frequents and it's through his creations and passion, I am where I am now. I was also lucky enough to be invited to the 2013 Grand Prix de Montana proxy event in Newcastle. What a truly detailed and flowing track and seeing the craft that went into circuit and to the cars was breath taking. Anyway, enough of the that romancing, as you might guess its well and truly pumping through my veins now. Brian, Are you going to hand paint Stewart's tartan band? If you're looking for a decal that fits, I actually have some templates now that will work on decal paper. My hand is just not steady enough for doing anything close to the Stewart Tartan. Mark, With regard to Stewart's head band, funnily enough I was talking to Dave about the very subject last night. I was asking if there was a decal for it as he has painted it on his Stewart's helmet and my painting skills are not up to it. One day I hope but not now. I'm used to working on engines with 5tonne liners and 3 3/4tonne pistons (old Slow speed engine, Sulzer RND90). So your offer of the use of your template would be greatly appreciated. Well Chaps, talk soon. Brian
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Post by Mark Huber on Oct 25, 2013 12:49:37 GMT -5
Brian,
Check your personal messages.
Cheers.
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Post by chrisguyw on Oct 25, 2013 16:03:05 GMT -5
I did not know that Mark had a template for Mr. Stewarts' tartan.......not wanting to hand paint one, as I knew it would be hideous, I stole the drivers' head (with tartan) from a Hill/Stewart Slot-it GT40. A little work, and it came out fine............although significantly more costly than the template/decal route........I wish I had known, or, maybe I should have asked!! Brian, Have fun with the Matra build. Cheers Chris
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Post by Mark Huber on Oct 25, 2013 16:07:10 GMT -5
Chris, I didn't have the file when you built that pretty BRM. And I did exactly the same thing you did earlier, in fact I bought that Slot-it GT40 specifically so I could steal Jackie's helmet! But buying GT40s at $49 a pop wasn't very practical for all the tartan bands I wanted. Another source for some very fine detailing decals.. including Jackie Stewart's Tartan, Graham Hill's London Rowing Club Oars, Innes Ireland's checkerboard band, and much more is this set of decals from RS Slot Racing: RS Slot Racing
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Post by David Lawson on Oct 26, 2013 0:49:36 GMT -5
Brian I hand painted the tartan stripe on this BRM I built a couple of years ago. I started with a red stripe around the helmet then painted a very fine gold pin stripe either side of the red. I then did a series of vertical blue stripes around the stripe then a series of gold pin stripe boxes in between the blue. David
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Post by Mark Huber on Oct 26, 2013 10:45:45 GMT -5
I don't mean to hijack your thread Brian; I know I have, but I have to expand on David's post for just a moment. The scratch built BRM P261 was David's entry in the first Montana GP Proxy invitational. When the car arrived in the post, I was amazed at the pristine work. I had seen plenty of pictures of David's cars, but now I was holding one of his cars in my hands for the first time. I immediately noticed the tartan band, and saw that it was hand painted. David's work looks great even when it's blown up to a size that one would never see except under a magnifier. As for me, I will probably stick to decals for the time being. But you do have some options for your Jackie Stewart, Brian.
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