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Post by Mark Huber on Dec 2, 2013 19:36:23 GMT -5
Allan and Stu are kicking off another Tasman Series for 2014. Watch this space.
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Post by Stubbo on Dec 2, 2013 19:58:18 GMT -5
It's time once again to turn your attention downunder. The Tasman Cup is back again in 2014.
Set out below are the rules and please use this thread for your nominations.
Rules for the 2014 Tasman Cup series.
This will start the official entry list, establish the schedule and contain the rules of the 2014 Tasman Cup proxy series. If you want to compete in this year's Tasman Cup, then please read through the following information and confirm your entry with a reply in this thread.
All entries need to be paid by the 8th February 2014.
Cars to be in Australia by Friday the 28th March 2014.
Cars will be returned to their owners at the end of July.
At this stage we will have a 6 race series. The probable schedule is
Round 1, Victoria Round 2, Tasmania Round 3, Tasmania Round 4, New South Wales Round 5, South Australia Round 6, Victoria
There may be an additional round in South Australia but more on that later.
2014 Tasman Cup Participants:
The nominal maximum field size is 24. History has shown that not all entrants actually make it to the start, therefore we will not limit the number of entries. If we are oversubscribed we will defer to plan B.
Entry fee for Australian and NZ entrants will be $25.00AUD. For International Competitors the entry fee will be $30.00AUD. Any surplus money will be allocated to the prize pool.
Any offers of sponsorship or donation of prizes will be greatly appreciated.
When nominating please provide the following information about your car if possible.
Car number, duplicates will NOT be allowed.
Returning entrants will have first choice on their previous number.
Number 1 is reserved for the previous series winner.
Car make and model.
Resin, Plastic or Fibreglass body.
Chassis type.
Your name, very important. Owners name should be written on the bottom of the chassis.
VRAA cars are eligible
Tasman Cup constructors guide lines
We propose to generally follow the VRAA rules for this series however there are a few slight variations so please read the rules carefully.
Cars should be 1/32 scale models of F1 cars from the 1961-65 1.5 litre period. The series is also open to 1/32 scale models of cars that competed in the Tasman Cup in 1964 or 1965.
Only hard bodies (resin, fibreglass, injection moulded plastic, or fabricated plastic) will be allowed.
Reasonable scale appearance and representation of authentic colour/number/driver schemes (but no need to replicate specific cars or drivers; freelance schemes may be used, if period-appropriate).
Minimum detail would include clear windscreen; driver with head, arms, hands, and partial steering wheel; roll bar; some 3-D engine detail if visible on actual model, exhaust system. Mirrors and suspension detail are required.
Chassis may be fabricated using any material or stock manufactured excluding carbon fibre.
Wheels, inserts and tires (see below for limits) should be in keeping with the period.
Tyres:
Rears: 0.80" (20.32mm) minimum diameter, maximum width .276" (7.25mm). at the sidewall
Fronts: 0.75" (19.05mm) minimum diameter, Maximum width 245” {6.25mm). at the sidewall. Front tyres must have a minimum width of 4.75mm at the sidewall.
Rear tyres should not have a contact patch of more than 7mm width, fronts no more than 6mm, where the tyre meets the track at the start of the series. If you are running a 4wd car then the front tyres may be the same size as the rear.
Rubber or urethane tyre compound must be black, no chemicals or oil. No clear paint or polish on front tires.
Rear tyres may not be slab sided tyres like YellowDogs. All rear yires must have the sidewall bulge like the rear cars did in the era. The inner sidewall does not have to have the bulge but must be radiused at the tread area.
Motors:
You may choose from one of the following. BWA FF050, Solarbotics FF030, MRRC SRP-1090 FF-050.
Gears may not be visible from above except as follows.
Some 1:1 cars had shortish bodies at the rear and the bodywork finished close to the rear axle line. If you want to model and enter one of these cars please let me know ASAP and if I can verify the short bodywork I will allow the crown to be exposed.
But please don’t ask me is this legal? Or is that legal? If you want to enter such a car check it out and provide me with the details and hopefully a photo and then I can confirm if it will be OK or not.
I know that some Tasman Brabhams had the short back end.
Dimensions:
Minimum ground clearance 1/16" or .0625", or 1.59 mm except at gear.
Accurate wheelbase (tolerance of +/- 1.5mm).
The cars can only have a max width of 2” or 50.8 mm, sidewall to sidewall.
Guide not to be visible from directly above the car in the straight ahead position.
No traction magnets.
Owners name should be written on the bottom of the chassis.
Race Procedures:
Finishing order for each round of the proxy race, and the entire series, will be determined by number of laps and 10ths of laps, within a set amount of time. A minimum of 9 minutes and a maximum of 12 minutes racing time per car is required at each track.
Each race will be conducted according to procedures chosen by the individual track host. Each car is to be raced in a fair and equal manner, and subject to the same track conditions. Each driver to drive all cars for the same time on the same lane. Lane and driver rotations to be determined by track host.
Track voltage will be 12 volts and will remain equal for all lanes throughout the race.
A running inspection of cars is to be made before and after each race. Cars may be cleaned and lubricated. No penalties for repairs required to keep the cars in the race. This excludes functional tyre and motor changes. If a motor should fail during qualifying or during the race it can be replaced after the race has been completed without penalty. Before repairs to any damage to the body or chassis are made, the track host will discuss with the car owner for repair or return instructions.
Points Scoring.
For each race;
50-44-40-36-34-30-28-26-24-22-18-16-14-12-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 with a fast race lap bonus of 2 points.
In the case of a tie a count back system will apply. If two or more cars finish on the same points then the car with the most wins will be declared the winner. If still tied them the most second placings will apply and so on and so on down the finishing order. If after that we still have a tie we will determine which car had faster lap times on the various tracks. If after that we still have a tie then we reckon we will have had a bloody good series.
The Race Directors will have the final decision. Should one of the Race Directors cars be involved in a tie and the finishing order is still in dispute we will seek advice and input from one or more of the track hosts. I could be magnanimous here and say the Race Director will concede. Maybe he will.
Penalties
Please be sure you avoid incurring any.
Late arrivals. Tough. The series will kick off on the scheduled date and if your car is stuck in the mail it will miss any round that it misses. The car will be tech’d on arrival and then sent on to the next practicable venue for inclusion in the remainder of the series.
Any car outside reasonable rule boundaries and with magnetic down force will be sent home.
Any car that requires a tyre change during the series will incur a penalty per set changed.
All costs incurred will be paid by the entrant.
SCHEDULE OF PENALTIES
Late arrival for scrutineering 20 points
Remedying of other non-compliant matters 10 points
Car outside above mechanical rules 10 points per round
Non-compliance other than mechanical 10 points
Tyre change 10 points
Let the games begin.
2014 Tasman Cup Nominations.
Stubbo #1
Bunyip #2
Lenny Broke #4
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Post by Stubbo on Dec 3, 2013 21:51:35 GMT -5
OK I have to fess up. I misunderstood some information I had and listed the wrong motors in the rules above. This has now been changed. The final list of motors that can be used is
You may choose from one of the following. BWA FF050, Solarbotics FF030, MRRC SRP-1090 FF-050.
Sorry for the confusion, my mistake.
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Post by chrisguyw on Dec 4, 2013 10:35:38 GMT -5
OK I have to fess up. I misunderstood some information I had and listed the wrong motors in the rules above. This has now been changed. The final list of motors that can be used is You may choose from one of the following. BWA FF050, Solarbotics FF030, MRRC SRP-1090 FF-050.Sorry for the confusion, my mistake. Hello Alan, Good to see the "Cup" back again this year, and I look forward to being a first time participant in the series. A quick note on MRRC/SRP motor identification.....The MRRC/SRP 1090 is now known as the "Power 16". MRRC changed their supplier a while back and as well as changing part #s', the motors were given "names". This can be seen on the MRRC site, and the few retailers I have contacted also now know this motor as the Power 16. The motor specs. have not changed. One thing to note, MRRC also has a "Speed 18", visually identical to the "Power 16", but, with a fractionally hotter wind. While there is a small tampo on these motors it is very easily rubbed off, which may present an identification issue.......likely only motors with the tampo intact, will be permitted. Cheers Chris Walker
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Post by Stubbo on Dec 4, 2013 17:16:03 GMT -5
Hi Chris,
Thanks for providing such a clear explanation. Its something I should have done but I didn't quite get there yet.
Cheers
Alan
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Post by Stubbo on Dec 8, 2013 19:24:37 GMT -5
Here is the most recent list of entrants.
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Post by Stubbo on Dec 10, 2013 3:10:29 GMT -5
We have decided to allow the Vanski motor as long as it has the markings PNN13B10C.
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Post by Stubbo on Dec 11, 2013 16:23:15 GMT -5
WE now have a full field of 24 Nominations. I will start a reserve list if anyone is still interested.
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Post by Mark Huber on Dec 11, 2013 17:06:08 GMT -5
I must lodge a protest and demand that #2 be disqualified. I have enough of a struggle competing against humans let alone mythical beasts. Very best regards,
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Post by Stubbo on Dec 11, 2013 17:43:05 GMT -5
Thats a nice picture of my mum!
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Post by Stubbo on Jan 7, 2014 16:57:57 GMT -5
Here is the most up to date entry list. We still can take one more racer if anyone is up to the challenge. Remember that your car needs to be in Melbourne by the 28th March.
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Post by Stubbo on Feb 4, 2014 19:58:17 GMT -5
OK chaps, time to get this show on the road. Here is the list of entrants as at today's date. I have received the entry fee from a couple of you, thank you very much. Please check the details and make sure they are right. I also know some of you have posted details of your car builds on the Oz forum but we would like to see some more of what's going on. The due date for payment of the entry fee is the 8th of February. Please PM me for my paypal address if you dont have it. Please send the fee as a gift. Don't forget the cars need to be here in Melbourne by the 28th March.
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Post by Mark Huber on Feb 4, 2014 22:23:34 GMT -5
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Post by Stubbo on Feb 12, 2014 22:30:48 GMT -5
G'day guys,
I have received entry fees from a number of you and I will update the list of paid entrants over the weekend.
PM me for the account details. Either paypal or bank transfer.
Cheers
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Post by Stubbo on Feb 18, 2014 19:06:37 GMT -5
G'day Guys,
Here is the updated list with paid entries. If you have paid and you are not maked as so please PM me to check it out.
For those who are yet to pay can you please do so ASAP or if you are not going to enter please let me know.
And yes there are only 23 on the list!
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